diff --git a/NewHorizons/Builder/Atmosphere/EffectsBuilder.cs b/NewHorizons/Builder/Atmosphere/EffectsBuilder.cs
index b4c74b78..8be43327 100644
--- a/NewHorizons/Builder/Atmosphere/EffectsBuilder.cs
+++ b/NewHorizons/Builder/Atmosphere/EffectsBuilder.cs
@@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
 using NewHorizons.External.Configs;
 using NewHorizons.External.Modules;
 using NewHorizons.Utility;
+using System;
 using UnityEngine;
 
 namespace NewHorizons.Builder.Atmosphere
@@ -52,7 +53,26 @@ namespace NewHorizons.Builder.Atmosphere
             if (_fogEmitterPrefab == null) _fogEmitterPrefab = SearchUtilities.Find("DB_EscapePodDimension_Body/Sector_EscapePodDimension/Effects_EscapePodDimension/Effects_DB_Fog (1)").InstantiateInactive().Rename("Prefab_Effects_Fog").DontDestroyOnLoad();
         }
 
+
+        #region obsolete
+        // Never change method signatures, people directly reference the NH dll and it can break backwards compatability
+        // Dreamstalker needed this one
+        [Obsolete]
+        public static void Make(GameObject planetGO, Sector sector, PlanetConfig config, float surfaceHeight)
+            => Make(planetGO, sector, config, surfaceHeight);
+        #endregion
+
         public static void Make(GameObject planetGO, Sector sector, PlanetConfig config)
+            => Make(planetGO, sector, config, null);
+
+        /// <summary>
+        /// Nullable surface height for backwards compat
+        /// </summary>
+        /// <param name="planetGO"></param>
+        /// <param name="sector"></param>
+        /// <param name="config"></param>
+        /// <param name="surfaceHeight"></param>
+        private static void Make(GameObject planetGO, Sector sector, PlanetConfig config, float? surfaceHeight)
         {
             InitPrefabs();
 
@@ -69,11 +89,13 @@ namespace NewHorizons.Builder.Atmosphere
             sectorCullGroup._waitForStreaming = false;
 
             var (minHeight, maxHeight) = GetDefaultHeightRange(config);
+            // min height override for backwards compat
+            minHeight = surfaceHeight ?? minHeight;
 
             foreach (var particleField in config.ParticleFields)
             {
                 var prefab = GetPrefabByType(particleField.type);
-                var emitter = Object.Instantiate(prefab, effectsGO.transform);
+                var emitter = GameObject.Instantiate(prefab, effectsGO.transform);
                 emitter.name = !string.IsNullOrWhiteSpace(particleField.rename) ? particleField.rename : prefab.name.Replace("Prefab_", "");
                 emitter.transform.position = planetGO.transform.position;
 
diff --git a/NewHorizons/Builder/Props/DetailBuilder.cs b/NewHorizons/Builder/Props/DetailBuilder.cs
index 0f510106..0fa79b84 100644
--- a/NewHorizons/Builder/Props/DetailBuilder.cs
+++ b/NewHorizons/Builder/Props/DetailBuilder.cs
@@ -32,7 +32,12 @@ namespace NewHorizons.Builder.Props
         // In particular, Outer Wives needs this method signature
         [Obsolete]
         public static GameObject Make(GameObject go, Sector sector, GameObject prefab, DetailInfo detail)
-            => Make(go, sector, null, prefab, detail);
+            => Make(go, sector, mod: null, prefab, detail);
+
+        // Dreamstalker needed this one
+        [Obsolete]
+        public static GameObject Make(GameObject go, Sector sector, DetailInfo detail)
+            => Make(go, sector, mod: null, detail);
         #endregion
 
         private static void SceneManager_sceneUnloaded(Scene scene)
diff --git a/NewHorizons/Handlers/SystemCreationHandler.cs b/NewHorizons/Handlers/SystemCreationHandler.cs
index d0c576f9..debd14e7 100644
--- a/NewHorizons/Handlers/SystemCreationHandler.cs
+++ b/NewHorizons/Handlers/SystemCreationHandler.cs
@@ -7,6 +7,8 @@ using NewHorizons.Utility.OWML;
 using NewHorizons.Utility.OuterWilds;
 using UnityEngine;
 using Object = UnityEngine.Object;
+using NewHorizons.OtherMods;
+
 namespace NewHorizons.Handlers
 {
     public static class SystemCreationHandler
@@ -31,7 +33,8 @@ namespace NewHorizons.Handlers
             // No time loop or travel audio at the eye
             if (Main.Instance.CurrentStarSystem == "EyeOfTheUniverse") return;
 
-            if (system.Config.enableTimeLoop)
+            // Small mod compat change for StopTime - do nothing if it's enabled
+            if (system.Config.enableTimeLoop && !OtherModUtil.IsEnabled("_nebula.StopTime"))
             {
                 var timeLoopController = new GameObject("TimeLoopController");
                 timeLoopController.AddComponent<TimeLoopController>();
diff --git a/NewHorizons/OtherMods/OtherModUtil.cs b/NewHorizons/OtherMods/OtherModUtil.cs
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..6843158d
--- /dev/null
+++ b/NewHorizons/OtherMods/OtherModUtil.cs
@@ -0,0 +1,6 @@
+namespace NewHorizons.OtherMods;
+
+public static class OtherModUtil
+{
+    public static bool IsEnabled(string modName) => Main.Instance.ModHelper.Interaction.ModExists(modName);
+}
diff --git a/NewHorizons/Utility/OuterWilds/TimeLoopUtilities.cs b/NewHorizons/Utility/OuterWilds/TimeLoopUtilities.cs
index 4566487c..f9c40831 100644
--- a/NewHorizons/Utility/OuterWilds/TimeLoopUtilities.cs
+++ b/NewHorizons/Utility/OuterWilds/TimeLoopUtilities.cs
@@ -1,3 +1,4 @@
+using NewHorizons.OtherMods;
 using UnityEngine;
 
 namespace NewHorizons.Utility.OuterWilds
@@ -5,7 +6,17 @@ namespace NewHorizons.Utility.OuterWilds
     public static class TimeLoopUtilities
     {
         public const float LOOP_DURATION_IN_SECONDS = TimeLoop.LOOP_DURATION_IN_MINUTES * 60;
-        public static void SetLoopDuration(float minutes) => TimeLoop._loopDuration = minutes * 60f;
+        public static void SetLoopDuration(float minutes)
+        {
+            TimeLoop._loopDuration = minutes * 60f;
+
+            // If slow time mod is on give them at least an hour
+            // This won't slow down time based events like sand sizes but oh well
+            if (OtherModUtil.IsEnabled("dnlwtsn.SlowTime"))
+            {
+                TimeLoop._loopDuration = Mathf.Max(TimeLoop._loopDuration, 60f * 60f);
+            }
+        }
         public static void SetSecondsElapsed(float secondsElapsed) => TimeLoop._timeOffset = secondsElapsed - Time.timeSinceLevelLoad;
         public static void SetMinutesRemaining(float minutes) => TimeLoop.SetSecondsRemaining(minutes * 60);
         public static float GetMinutesRemaining() => TimeLoop.GetSecondsRemaining() / 60f;
diff --git a/NewHorizons/manifest.json b/NewHorizons/manifest.json
index 7755e5ee..45285f35 100644
--- a/NewHorizons/manifest.json
+++ b/NewHorizons/manifest.json
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
   "author": "xen, Bwc9876, clay, MegaPiggy, John, Trifid, Hawkbar, Book",
   "name": "New Horizons",
   "uniqueName": "xen.NewHorizons",
-  "version": "1.18.0",
+  "version": "1.18.1",
   "owmlVersion": "2.9.8",
   "dependencies": [ "JohnCorby.VanillaFix", "_nebula.MenuFramework", "xen.CommonCameraUtility", "dgarro.CustomShipLogModes" ],
   "conflicts": [ "Raicuparta.QuantumSpaceBuddies", "PacificEngine.OW_CommonResources" ],